Tuesday 10th Dec
Our next book club meeting will be on Tuesday 10th Dec, 7pm at our usual venue, the Labour Club, Saltergate when we will discuss ‘Haig's Enemy’ by Jonathan Boff, in which he discusses the role of Crown Prince Ruprecht of Bavaria and sheds new light on many of the controversies of the Western Front from a German point of view.
Publisher: OUP Oxford; 1st Edition (12 April 2018)
Hardcover: 400 pages (also available as Kindle and Audible)
By Peter Harris
As a book group we have tried to read a fairly wide range of books rather than repeatedly reading battle histories. We have read general overviews such as Travers’s ‘How the War was Won’, unit histories such as ‘The Journey’s End Battalion’ by Michael Lucas, local history as ‘Derbyshire in the First World’ by Scott Lomax and about Australian and New Zealand nurses in ‘ANZAC Girls’ by Peter Rees. This month we returned to more complex subjects as we read ‘Artillery in the Great War’ by Paul Strong and Sanders Marble.
Our next read is a bit of an experiment. On the 15th October we will be discussing a set of four short academic papers that I have come across at Wolverhampton. These are:-
Jonathan Krause, ‘Ferdinand Foch and the Scientific Battle’, The RUSI Journal, 159.4, (2014) pp. 66-74
Jim Beach, ‘Issued by the General Staff: Doctrine Writing at British HQ, 1917-1918’, War In History 19(4) (2012) pp. 464-491
Jonathan Boff, ‘Combined Arms during the Hundred Days Campaign, August –November 1918’, War in History 14(4) (2010) pp. 459-478
Paul Harris & Sanders Marble, ‘The Step by Step Approach: British Military Thought and Operational Method on the Western Front, 1915-1917, War in History 15(1) (2008) pp. 17-42
These papers cover a range of topics that I hope will be of interest and give the group an insight into how academics approach a particular topic for study.
Tuesday 15th October
Really good couple of hours at our Book Discussion Group meeting last night. Mixed comments about Sanders & Marble`s book `Artillery in the Great War`. Some thought it was a good source of information whilst others felt it was too thin on detail with too much about the war in general. The discussion evolved into aerial photography and its use in identifying targets for the guns. Peter Harris told of his recent visit to explore the tunnels around Ramsgate. I never cease to be amazed about the wealth of knowledge our members as individuals possess. The next meeting will be on October 15th - watch this space for more details. Even if you don`t have time to read the book in question I think if you came along to the Discussion Group you would find it a couple of hours well spent.
Tuesday 13th August
This Book Group is open to everyone, there is no membership as such – come and give it a go.
Not read the book ? - no problem - our meetings develop into a good all round discusion around the topic - last month prolific writer on military matters Andy Rawson gave us a fascinating insight into the writer / publisher relationship.
Good meeting meeting held on 25th June , once we discussed the book - which all agreed was interesting and a good representation of Derbyshire`s experience of the Great War - prolific writer Andy Rawson gave the Group an interesting insight into the book publishing business.
Info: As usual a chat in a friendly informal atmosphere about all things WW1 was in order - and a bit about the book as well
Next meeting August 13th.
The Group`s next meeting will be on June 25th when we will discuss`The Home Front - Derbyshire in the First World War`. This book is available on Amazon with prices starting from £7.52 for a used copy
Excellent Book Discussion Group Meeting on 16th April ...great to welcome two first time members to the Group. Judging by the comments `Anzac Girls` has been one of the most popular books focussed on so far. The Group`s next meeting will be on June 25th when we will discuss`The Home Front - Derbyshire in the First World War
The next meeting is on Tuesday April 16th and the book decided upon at our last meeting is by Peter Rees, ‘Anzac Girls, An Extraordinary Story of World War 1 Nurses.’ (London, Allen & Unwin: 2008).
By the end of the Great War, forty-five Australian and New Zealand nurses had died on overseas service and over two hundred had been decorated. These were the women who left for war looking for adventure and romance but were soon confronted with challenges for which their civilian lives could never have prepared them. Their strength and dignity were remarkable. Using diaries and letters, Peter Rees takes us into the hospital camps and the wards, and the tent surgeries on the edge of some of the most horrific battlefronts of human history. But he also allows the friendships and loves of these courageous and compassionate women to shine through and enrich our experience.
Profoundly moving, Anzac Girls is a story of extraordinary courage and humanity shown by a group of women whose contribution to the Anzac legend has barely been recognised in our history. Peter Rees has changed that understanding forever. It is a fairly long book at 315 pages but from the way it is laid out it is the sort of book you might just read a few chapters if you hadn’t the time to read it all. It has also been made into a TV series which is very true to the book and is well worth watching on DVD
Nine of us met on Tuesday 19th and the book we had been reading was ‘The Battle that won the war, Bellenglise, Breaching the Hindenburg Line’ by Peter Rostron. The book was well received by all of us. We agreed that the title was a bit misleading as there were still the battles of the Selle and the Sambre to come after Bellenglise before the Armistice. We all found the book readable. The author had an old fashioned way of introducing each chapter and the maps and extracts from the war diaries showing trenches, deployment of artillery and intelligence had been badly copied and without any attempt to clean up the images were very dark. But overall a very good read.
We discussed which book we would read for our next meeting on Tuesday April 16th and decided on Peter Rees, ‘Anzac Girls, An Extraordinary Story of World War 1 Nurses.’ (London, Allen & Unwin: 2008).
The next meeting (4th) of the book group will be on Tuesday 19th February and the book chosen is The Battle That Won the War - Bellenglise: Breaching the Hindenburg Line 1918 by Peter Rostron and published by Pen & Sword in 2018. Available from Amazon for £11.69, with the Kindle edition at £3.83
All welcome – whether or not you have read the book – come and join us for a great natter about all things WW1 –don`t forget it`s a 7pm start
We met for the third session of the group on the 11 December. The book chosen was The Journey's End Battalion: The 9th East Surrey in the Great War by Michael Lucas published by Pen & Sword in 2012.
R.C. Sherriff, author of Journey's End, the most famous play of the Great War, saw all his frontline service with the 9th Battalion East Surrey Regiment. This intense experience profoundly affected his writing and, through his play, it continues to have a powerful influence on our understanding of the conflict. Yet the story of his battalion - known as 'The Gallants' after the bravery it displayed during the Battle of Loos - has never been told in full until now. In The Journey's End Battalion, Michael Lucas gives a vivid account of its history. Using official and unofficial sources, diaries, letters, and British and German wartime records, he describes the individuals who served in it and the operations they took part in. He identifies the inspiration for Journey's End and considers how Sherriff delved into his experiences and those of his fellow soldiers in order to create his drama. The narrative covers the battalion's bloody initiation at Loos, its role in the fighting on the Somme at Guillemont and Delville Wood and during the Third Battle of Ypres, then the part it played in the desperate defence against the German 1918 offensives and its contribution to the Allied advance to victory. Despite the presence of Sherriff and other notable individuals, the 9th East Surrey was in many ways typical of the southern Kitchener battalions, and Michael Lucas's account of its service provides a fascinating contrast with the northern Pals battalions whose story has been more often told. So not only does the book shed new light on the wartime experience of R.C. Sherriff, but it is a valuable record of the operation of a British battalion on the Western Front during the Great War.
The group had all enjoyed the book. It was a contrast to the more academic books by Travers and Terraine we had read previously and being a battalion history with a literary connection it had more general interest and appeal. It lead to quite a lot of discussion about command (at the battle of Loos in particular). Overall we liked the style and readability of the book and some of us had also watched the film of 'Journey's End' on YouTube. The author's son had contributed by translating parts of the war diaries of the German units that the 9th battalion had fought against and this added an interesting component to the book seeing the same events from the opposition`s point of view.
The Chesterfield WFA Book Group held its second meeting on Tuesday 16th October, when six members discussed John Terraine’s “To Win a War. 1918, The Year of Victory.”
While most people hear a lot about the carnage of the Somme, Verdun and Passchendaele, the events of 1918 are less well known and we all found this classic narrative written by a founder member of the Western Front Association, a very good choice to unravel the events of the Kaiserschlact, the 100 Day offensive and the making of the peace leading to the Armistice.
Even some of the group who have a wide knowledge of the history, were reminded of the complications posed by the tricky politicians, Lloyd George, Clemenceau and Wilson (the nephew).
Our next Book Group meeting will be on Tuesday 11th December, 7pm.
in the Chesterfield Labour Club Bar (not the upstairs meeting room), and we will discuss
“ The Journey’s End Battalion . The 9th East Surrey in the Great War” by Michael Lucas 2012
ISBN: 978 1 52674 448 7
Pen & Sword
Peter Griffiths has kindly agreed to lead the discussion.
The Book Club Group held their first meeting on Thursday 19th July
in the Labour Club’s Function room. Seven members enjoyed a very stimulating and interesting discussion on ‘How the War was Won’ by Tim Travers. This was led by Tony Bolton, whose extensive knowledge was very much appreciated. Although the book has attracted criticism from some of the revisionist historians, we concluded the author had done an excellent job with his analysis of the BEFs situation in the last two years of World War One, particularly since the book was written in 1990 before the internet was available. We also discovered one of Tim Travers main interests was the history of Pirates.
The next meeting is on Tuesday 16th October 7pm – 9pm when we will discuss 'To Win A War: 1918, the Year of Victory’ by John Terraine.
Book Group co-ordinator
Thursday 19th July sees the inaugural meeting of our book discussion group at our usual venue, Chesterfield Labour Club, with a 7pm start.
How the War was Won by Tim Travers
Assessing the book before we read it. Some questions to ask.
- Does the book have a subtitle?
- Who wrote it?
- When was it written?
- Who first published it?
- Are there footnotes or endnotes?
- What does the bibliography tell us?
When we read it.
- What does the author tell us his intentions are with the book?
- How well does the author fulfil his intentions?
- Does the conclusion actually sum up the book?
- Does the author succeed in his intentions?
- Are we convinced by his arguments?
Some General points.
- Do we think all books are of equal value in furthering historical knowledge?
- Who else has written about the same subject?
- Did the author reach similar or radically different conclusions?
- Has the writer returned to the subject later?
Members of The Western Front Association and non-members are equally welcome . We ask for a modest £3 donation on the door to cover room charges.s, The Club licensed bar is available for use by all attending our meetings.